No official date is set for the end of the promotion but as always, it's a limited "while supplies last " offer. The blue AT&T Pixi Plus and Verizon and Sprint phones are not part of this promotion. AT&T's Pre Plus and Pixi Plus are the newest webOS handsets, officially hitting the market in May of this year.

With the earlier confirmation of webOS devices in many form factors and HP's Windows 7-powered Slate only targeting an enterprise audience, WebOS looks to finally be poised to make a major push for market share thanks to the tremendous resources available to HP. This move is rather stunning, since HP and Compaq have been staunch supporters of Microsoft's mobile efforts over the past two decades ranging from Windows CE to Windows Mobile 6.5. However, with last week's news item that HP was mysteriously absent from Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 launch partner list, this shouldn't come as a complete surprise.

We're working a wide variety, as Todd said, smartphones definitely, slates, netbooks, working with the guys in the printer group. webOS [...] will have a unified user interface across all of these, will have a unified developer environment, and it's all based on the foundation that we build in webOS from day one. When we developed webOS, we thought about making this scalable across a variety of mobile devices; that's what we'll be delivering going forward.

No the add-ons are not modular. We would possibly consider a low cost exchange system if a users requirements changed. They give us their old unit we give them a replacement and charge them a small premium on top of the normal additional cost. That is just a thought of the top of my head it is something we would need to think about a bit more.

Also, due to the recent influx of news on this new device, we have created a special news item archive for all things PDA32 and Aceeca, accessible here.

As we reported yesterday, the base price of the PDA32 is $179.99 but a number of significant items remain optional extras; IRDA, 3.5mm stereo output, Bluetooth, and 802.11b/g wi-fi. Aceeca is keeping these extra-cost items optional for their commercial customers while still making them available to a consumer audience by request. The breakdown in the pricing of these optional extras direct from Aceeca is now available and is as follows (note that these are proposed prices and have not been finalized, so they may change as production ramps up):

The website update also brings up the first set of official specs. Some highlights include confirmation that the base price for the unit is USD $179 and the unit comes with a one-year warranty. No price is available yet for the add-on modules such as 801.11b/g wi-fi , stereo audio output & voice record, and infrared transmitter. It appears that the PDA32's various wireless modules have not yet received certification so this is a decidedly unconnected device at the moment. Also, a high-power IR option is promised on Aceeca's site, something we have not seen since the days of IR blasters, some of Sony's CLIE models and the OmniRemote Springboard modules.

Kinoma's official line for support of Palm OS and its related devices:

"As Palm OS fades into the sunset, we've had a lot of folks ask what our plans are. Today we're announcing that we'll be ending sales and support for Palm OS products in order to focus completely on current phone OSs"

A blog called myHPmini is reporting that HP has submitted a new trademark filling on the term PalmPad. The mark is described as relating to a long list of mobile computing products, categories and terms including: computer, portable computers, handheld and mobile computers, PDAs, electronic notepads, mobile digital electronic devices.

The application was just filled on July 7th, just about a week after the Palm/HP acquition went official, so it looks like HPQ Holdings is wasting little time on the webOS tablet development process. Checkout the full USPTO docs here.

The BusinessInsider piece adds some choice fuel to the rumor bonfire regarding details about the list of unsuccessful bidders for Palm. According to the report, apart from the usual suitors such as Lenovo and Google, Apple was as an interested bidder, as was RIM. RIM, in fact, supposedly even managed to outbid HP initially and "had to work incredibly hard to blow it". No claims about HTC or any of the other players referenced in the past such as Huawei, Nokia, Dell, or Motorola.

Life at the Developer Conference gives you little chance for reflection; you're rushing around, trying to meet with people, see talks, catch the exhibit floor, spend time in the labs, do some networking, and getting the occasional nap to keep your energy up.  I'm writing this early on Friday morning at the gate for my flight back to Austin; this really has been my only break since my last posting.

Wednesday morning opened with a great keynote talk by author Don Norman.  It was about the emotional aspects of design, how the shape, functionality, and aesthetics of products affect how we perceive them.  He had customized his talk a but for the Palm OS world, using examples of good and bad PDAs and smartphones, and it was both entertaining and insightful.  After Don's talk, Larry Slotnik, PalmSource CTO, talked about their OS roadmap, about what they'd done in the last year and what was coming.  There are no big surprises; they are expecting an alpha-quality release of Palm OS for Linux to licensees this fall, with the 1.0 version coming in the first part of 2006.  They had shipped Palm OS Cobalt 6.1.1 to licensees a few months ago, an update to the release last fall to fix stability and five-way navigation issues.

Mark Bercow from palmOne gave a talk later that morning, highlighting the current product line.  He commented on the reports about palmOne losing market share, noting that a lot of the reports depend on how you define the PDA or smartphone spaces.  It's good to note that we've had seven quarters of year-over-year sales growth, our margins are going up, and volume continues to increase.  Also, about 70% of Zire purchasers are buying their first PDA, showing that there's still plenty of growth room in the entry-level market.

I had my talk on NVFS on Wednesday afternoon, right after Chris Dunphy's talk on the PalmSource Installer.  I really like where the PSI format is going, and they've built some nice tools to prepare both over-the-air and desktop installer versions of your application.  Chris really showed that it's easy to setup your XML files and configure the installation process, and the PSI system will generate all the HTML pages you need to automate installation of applications from your website.  My talk went better than I expected; I'll be posting both my notes and the notes from the follow up lab session in a separate entry.

Wednesday night featured a loud and dark party, and bright and active developer labs.  Some devs were busy getting their entries ready for the PalmHack VII contest, while others were just taking advantage of the many PalmSource and palmOne engineers that were hanging around.  I was one of the hack judges, so in-between giving people CodeWarrior tips and diagnosing memory leaks, I got to see some interesting and completely wrong applications.  The judges were up past 2:00AM debating which submissions should get which prizes and what jokes we were going to make onstage, but I think the late hours were worth it.

I missed the early presentations on Thursday; I slept in an extra hour and then was working the palmOne booth.  However, I did get to catch David Fedor's excellent talk on going wireless.  The main thing I took out of that talk was to try out the AppNetLib code that's on the conference CD; this is an HTTP library that PalmSource is providing in source form for all developers, and it makes it easy for your applications to ask a web server for information.

The conference closed with Michael Mace's keynote talk about the Palm OS market.  He showed clips from several focus groups highlighting the three main markets for smartphones: communicators, information junkies, and entertainment users.  Each type of customer related to their PDA or phone in different ways: communicators tended to have a more emotional relationship with their device, but while they spent a lot of time with it, they didn't use a lot of extra applications.  The information junkies were most likely to use vertical applications and load their devices with data, but they viewed them more as tools and not something they used for fun.  The entertainment market was younger and easily bored; they saw a PDA as a necessary tool, but also something that they could use to keep stimulated during the day.

After the keynote was announcements of various contests.  I'm glad that my friend Scott Maxwell won the Aceeca virtual sheep shearing contest.  For PalmHack, we gave our grand prizes to a "Crazy Clock" application for Palm OS Cobalt and a WiFi Theremin application on Palm OS Garnet that varied the sound playback based on the current WiFi network signal strength.  A dishonorable mention was made of Scott Corley's "Sock Monkey Knife Fight" game which wowed the crowd with bloody puppets jumping around the LifeDrive's screen.  Scott had left already, so I accepted his award doing my best rabid monkey impersonation.

The first full day of the conference brought a lot of news and some good sessions.  The big deal was the announcement of palmOne's new license agreement for Palm OS, and their purchase of the name "Palm" from PalmSource.  I don't have any details outside of the press release; it looks like palmOne will be changing its name back to Palm in the near future, and that PalmSource has a few years to rebrand itself and its OS.

Outside that note, this morning's keynote address wasn't very surprising.  I caught a bit of the palmOne talk with new Senior VP Mark Bercow which mainly was about our product line strategy and how we rely on developers to produce interesting software.  While working the palmOne booth on the exhibit floor, the most common questions were "can I play with a LifeDrive?" and "what's the difference between the different Treo 650s you're selling in the store?".

This evening was fun; I was one of the on-stage experts for the "Stump the Experts" panel.  We didn't have a huge number of questions from the audience, but it was enough to fill the hour, and I got to pitch in on some NVFS and Sony questions.  After that, I hung out at the hardware labs and mostly answered CodeWarrior questions.  I also helped one of the PalmSource engineers get their PalmRC compiler plugin for CodeWarrior working better; this is one of the tools available as part of the PalmSource Inside Track program, and it's pretty nice for people who want to use the XRD format with the CW V9 tools.

I've registered here at the PalmSource 2005 Developer Conference, and my first impressions are good.  They are still getting a lot of the conference space setup, but attendence is high, and the talk schedule looks good.  Of course, the most important first impression for a conference is what kind of free stuff you get as an attendee.  The 2004 PalmSource conference bag was pretty sparse, but this year the contents are looking a lot better.

First, there's the bag itself.  It's a black backpack with the "Palm Powered" and "PalmSource" logos on it, but no mention of the event.  I guess that lets PalmSource reuse any leftovers.  It has a rubberized bottom, two deep side pockets suitable for holding water bottles or laptop power adapters, a primary holding area with a laptop pouch, space for papers in the main flap, and  a front pocket with a snap-off organizer.  All of the zippers have zip pulls, and the back straps look to be well constructed with lots of stitching..  I think it will be a useful addition to my collection of show bags, and I'll probably switch to it as my day-to-day laptop bag.

In the backpack was a variety of papers, gadgets, and software included:

• Don Norman - a trade paperback copy of his book "Emotional Design"
• Motricity - notepad
• Cingular - vinyl notepad and pen
• palmOne - a Treo-labeled pen
• Garmin - a CD with their latest iQue SDK
• BlackBerry - a small four-port USB 1.1 hub in translucent blue
• iambic - a DVD-case copy of their Agendus Professional application for both Palm OS and Windows
• PalmGear - a non-slip pad for your car that grips to your dashboard
• DataViz - a flyer for a free copy of their RoadSync over-the-air email sync program for talking with Microsoft Exchange 2003 servers
• Audible.com - a card for a free month of membership in their audiobook store
• Ultrasoft - flyer for free copy of Ultrasoft DataShield

Tonight is the Palm OS Users Group meeting, and tomorrow morning is the opening keynote.  It looks like David Nagel will still be delivering the talk, even though he resigned as CEO of PalmSource over the weekend.

Both the Tungsten T5 and the new LifeDrive have an application on them called "Files".  This is the file manager that lets you navigate the collection of files that's on your SD card or on the internal volume.  To support opening files on external media, palmOne has extended the Exchange Manager by defining some new values.

Traditionally, an application registers for a file extension or MIME type and says that it will process items that match that registration when they are received via a beam or some other exchange library.  This is done using the Exchange Manager function ExgRegisterDatatype along with one of the constants exgRegExtensionID or exgRegTypeID.  In the palmOne SDK, the header file "common/libraries/filebrowser/FileBrowserLibCommon.h" defines these values:

#define exgRegEditCreatorID     0xff7b // creator ID registry
#define exgRegEditExtensionID   0xff7d // filename extension registry
#define exgRegEditTypeID        0xff7e // MIME type registry

These are new values you can pass to ExgRegisterDatatype to tell the system that your application can handle opening files on a VFS volume that match a particular creator ID, extension, or MIME type. More details on registering to handle files on external media, how to register icons to go with those types, and what to do when the system tells you to open a file are in the palmOne Developer Guide in the "File Browser API" section. On devices with this API, there's also several shared library calls that you can use to present "open file" and "save file" dialogs.

While the file browser APIs are palmOne-specific, the methods of registering with Exchange Manager and having a file browser application activate registered programs have been submitted back to PalmSource for standardization in their Palm OS APIs. The scheme isn't too bad and fits in with the other uses of Exchange Manager, so I hope they accept it as an OS-wide standard.

[Note: if any of you are developers of software that have the ability to unzip files, adding support for this would be a very, very, very cool thing. Hint, hint.]

You should have seen the palmOne announcement of our new LifeDrive mobile manager handheld this week.  It's been in the rumor mill for a while, and I enjoyed reading the slightly inaccurant rantings from the Palm OS enthusiast community.  The LifeDrive is new technology in the PDA space; it doesn't do everything you'd want it to do the speed isn't as good as I'd like, and I wish the hard drive was at least 20GB, but I already think it is really, really useful in its current configuration.

The LifeDrive works pretty well as an external hard drive for your laptop or desktop system.  It's got a FAT32 file system and enough space to store a lot of documents.  This tends to change the synchronization paradigm a lot; where before, you had conduits that reformatted or excerpted data between your PC and your device, now you can just have the data in one place -- on the LifeDrive -- and have your PC directly modify that data.  This opens up some real opportunities in the application development space for the PDA.

In particular, I'd love to see more applications that can parse and manage data from desktop apps.  I use Eudora for my email, and I think it would be really good to see an update to Eudora for Palm OS that works off VFS storage.  Eudora already is very portable from PC to PC, and being able to keep the same mail store when I'm mobile would be really, really nice.  I could see similar things for PC databases and vertical applications.

John Marshall just put out the notice on the emulator forum about a major update to the Palm OS Emulator source code to fix issues with building it with recent compilers and libraries.  It doesn't update POSE to handle Palm OS 5 or ARM code, it's just a fix for "bitrot", as John puts it.  Here's the text of his announcement:

To: "Palm OS Emulator Forum"
Subject: Patches for building with recent GCC and FLTK on Linux

There have been several threads over the last few months noting that the current Emulator source code does not compile on modern Linux (or other Unix variants). That's because the last Emulator release was three years ago :-(, we're all using tools (GCC, FLTK) that are much more recent than that, and the Emulator code has bitrotted somewhat.

At http://sourceforge.net/projects/pose/ you'll find a patch that fixes all this bitrot. With this patch, the Emulator should be compilable with any GCC (2.95.x or later) and any 1.0.x or 1.1.x FLTK. I've tested it successfully with GCC 3.4.2 and 4.0.0 and with FLTK 1.0.7, 1.0.11, 1.1.0, the current 1.1.6 release, and current 1.1.x CVS. I haven't tested it with earlier versions of GCC, but I would not expect the patch's changes to introduce any new problems with older GCCs.

When compiled with GCC 3.4.x or 4.0.x, this results in a working poser. In particular, the miscompilation with GCC 3.3.x described in http://news.palmos.com/read/messages?id=153083 has gone away. This may mean that this in fact was a bug in 3.3.x's optimisation and I was wrong to point fingers at aliasing violations in EmPoint.cpp :-), but it warrants further study. If you are using GCC 3.3.x, you will likely want to arrange for EmPoint.cpp to be compiled with -fno-strict-aliasing in order to get a working poser. Or use a more recent GCC. See that thread for details.

The patch addresses the following main issues:

• Renaming of filename_ext() to fl_filename_ext() etc, in line with the renaming in FLTK 1.1.x (trivial);
• Removal of spurious braces in struct initialisations, about which the compiler is more strict than it used to be (trivial);
• Various C++ obscurities about which the compiler is more strict than it used to be (decidedly non-trivial :-));

For obscure reasons involving the FLTK changes to configure.in and subverting automake, I've included a couple of build-related patches that I've had lying around for a few years. The only interesting effect of this is that building in a separate directory (even more separate than BuildUnix) now works.

The patch is recent-gcc-fltk.diff in the patches area at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pose/.

John

Ton van Overbeek's done it again.  The developer of the prc-tools patch for supporting debugging of multiple code sections now has developed a TCP/IP-to-USB bridge program for Linux and Cygwin, similar to the one that Florent Pillet did on Mac OS X.  This enables direct debugging USB-based devices on those systems, and it also bypasses PalmSource's USBPort.dll meaning it works around some bugs that prevent CodeWarrior or Palm OS Debugger from talking to some devices that don't identify their debug channels correctly.

I've quoted Ton's message about this below.  If you're using those tools, I'd urge you to check it out and provide feedback to him.

Subject: [ANN] tcpusb-0.1: USB debugging for m68k-palmos-gdb

Finally you can use m68k-palmos-gdb with USB devices.

I made a tcp-usb bridge (same idea as Florent Pillet's bridge for MacOS) which works both under Cygwin and Linux. For the impatient: the files are on http://www.v-overbeek.nl/tcpusb.

Since I have no way to test all combinations of USB devices and Windows and Linux versions, I need your help to try this out. The best way to send comments is to post them on the PalmSource tools-forum (http://news.palmos.com/read/?forum=tools-forum) and/or sent them to the prc-tools-devel mailinglist at sourceforge (prc-tools-devel@lists.sourceforge.net). When the code turns out to be usable with many devices I might integrate it directly into m68k-palmos-gdb, so you could say something like "target palmos usb:".

I have tried tcpusb 0.1 with a Tungsten T and T3 on WinXP/SP2, Win2K, Linux 2.4.27, 2.6.8 and 2.6.11. Also some limited testing with a Handspring Visor was done.

One caveat for Linux: The 2.6.11-rcx versions do not work due to a bug in the usbfs code. The major distribution affected by this is Knoppix 3.8.x which uses 2.6.11-rc3.

Enjoy.
Ton van Overbeek

I support a "Update my Application" feature in my SXSW 2005 schedule application.  I do this by setting up a series of URLs on my webserver, one for each version of the program that was released with the web update feature:

• http://2005.sxsw.com/pda/includes/downloads/update_4.1.0.html
• http://2005.sxsw.com/pda/includes/downloads/update_4.2.0.html

The application turns its own version string (retrieved from its 'tver' #1000 resource) into a URL using the format string "http://2005.sxsw.com/pda/includes/downloads/update_%s.html" and then it uses that to launch the device's web browser using code derived from the Web Browser Manager sample code in the PalmSource KB.

A user with an current version of the application gets directed to a "you're using the latest version" message, while a user with an older version gets a link to the PRC download. I could also have used HTML auto-refresh to just start the download automatically, using HTML code like <meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="5; URL=http://2005.sxsw.com/pda/includes/downloads/sxsw_2005.prc" /> embedded in the <head> part of the update page.

I'll give this to one reader at random. Just send me a user thought on how you have been using your mobile device whether it is for either work or pleasure. Importantly please give it a title and send me your email. Associate Writers please post to PalmAddict as normal, I'll shout you when it's time to send your post count in. Email me at sammymcloughlin@gmail.com [Please no emails on why you want it or what you will do it, we want user thoughts.]
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"iPhones, Zunes, Smartphones lack a DVD drive, so to be able to put a movie on these devices, a DVD needs to be changed into something that will work with them. You can buy/rent movie files from Apple's iTunes store, but these only work with iPod and iPhone devices. If you own a Zune, a PSP or anything else, you can not use iTunes to get your movies. While some companies do offer video downloads one way or another, they usually require you to pay for movies you probably already own or DVD anyway. This is where DVD Catalyst comes in.

DVD Catalyst transforms your DVD movies and TV shows into video files that you can use with your device. By installing DVD Catalyst on your computer, you can convert your own DVD collection (as well as video files you might already have) into something that will play on your Blackberry, PocketPC etc. No need to pay for the movies again, or worry about watching them within a day before they expire. With DVD Catalyst you can watch your own movies and TV shows in a waiting room, entertain the kids on a long ride, or show off your home recordings to your colleagues, regardless of what device you use."
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Sprint will be the first wireless carrier to bring1 the latest version of Android to its customers. The Android 2.2 software release provides a significant number of feature enhancements, including:

Voice Dialing Over Bluetooth.
Application Storage on External Memory, giving users more storage room for all their apps.
Camera 4-way rotation allows the camera icons to rotate with the camera.
Improved Browser Performance including a faster JavaScript engine and Flash 10x Support improving the user?s ability to view videos and available content associated with web pages.

"Sprint is thrilled with our customers' response to HTC EVO 4G and the innovative and exciting experience it offers,? said Fared Adib, vice president ? Product Development for Sprint. ?It is exciting for us to lead the industry in bringing the Android 2.2 update to these customers and improve on the amazing experience they receive with America's first 4G capable phone.?

Easy Downloading
Sprint will begin sending update notifications to users in waves beginning Tuesday, Aug. 3 and the upgrade should be available for all HTC EVO 4G users by the middle of August.

The notification will let the users know that the update is available and it will provide the simple two-step over-the-air download process. Users will receive a notification that Android 2.2 is available for download. Once the user has downloaded the update, they will be prompted to install the update. The user will be notified that their device will be disabled during the installation process. The phone will be ready to use once the process completes.

For those who just can?t wait to get Android 2.2, there will be an easy user initiated option to download the upgrade. Customers can access the software update through their HTC EVO 4G under the Settings Menu > System Updates > HTC Software Update. This will initiate the three-step process also." More deets after the jump.
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"That worldwide growth was driven primarily by vendors outside the top vendors is particularly noteworthy," said Ramon Llamas, senior research analyst with IDC's Mobile Devices Technology and Trends team. "Directly contributing to this is growth in the smartphone category. Companies with a strict focus on the smartphone market, like RIM, Apple, and HTC have clearly benefited from steadily increasing user interest. But it's not just smartphone vendors that have driven the market forward ? it's also the companies with a presence among entry-level handsets and mid- range devices, which have long been the domain of the worldwide leaders.

"To dismiss the worldwide leaders would be a mistake," added Llamas. "Each currently enjoys broad distribution, a deep portfolio, and brand recognition. Moreover, each is in the midst of refreshing its respective product portfolio, with greater emphasis on smartphones during the second half of this year. Still, the upward pressure from vendors outside the current top five vendors, particularly Apple and Motorola, will provide tough competition in the quarters to come."

Kevin Restivo, senior research analyst with IDC's Worldwide Mobile Phone Tracker program, said some traditional mobile phone makers and brand owners, such as ZTE, have gained share due to higher volumes of lower-cost models, which are increasingly popular with wireless service providers.

Agendus integrates a user's Calendar, Contacts and Task List into one application. Iambic has added features to make it easier to see what's most pressing and important on the user's daily agenda. The app enables users to assign icons to Events and Tasks making it easier to identify them and offers the ability to go to today's events or scheduled tasks by a simple shake of the device when in any Calendar view.

Other key improvements recently added include the option to auto-adjust the Day view to the current time, providing only the upcoming scheduled events. Likewise, the List View now auto-adjusts to the current date so scheduled future events are brought to the top of the screen.

Agendus experienced a complete redesign with version 2.0, which included an entirely new user interface featuring new graphics, easier navigation throughout the app, improved layout of preferences and an overall visual facelift. This version also introduced new Calendar Views, a Birthday View and Push Notifications for event alerts.

is available in the App Store for $7.99 USD. The company?s website is www.iambic.com.
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--- In GtD_Palm@yahoogroups.com, Nico  wrote:
>
> Interesting, this is the first time I hear this ...
> I think you are a bit on your own here.
> 
> Isn't this the case for Contacts ? 

They are using mdb files for Memos, To Do, Address and Datebook. 

The table structure for Memo (for example):

Record ID (long int)
Status (long int)
Placement (long int)
Private (yes/no)
Category (text/255)
Note (memo)
Blob (OLE Object)

No indexes, etc. No idea what the blob field is for. Also, and I don't
know why the heck they'd do this, but each table has its own mdb file.

The implication here is that you can easily tie the palm into most any
Microsoft application using Access. The record ID's and so forth can't
be that hard to figure out. 

I doubt I'm the first one to come across the fact that these tables
are in Access databases.

Anyway, I'm a lot more interested in converting my gtd system from my
old hipster system into my phone. 

I have a project management system I've created (for personal use) in
Access that ties into my existing (access) contact database. 

The thought of easily tying my palm phone into my existing
organizational/project management system is kind of interesting. I'm
wondering if anyone has already done the same (and perhaps documented
how its done), or if anyone here wants to take part in such a project
and split the work. 

Mike

Interesting, this is the first time I hear this ...
I think you are a bit on your own here.

Isn't this the case for Contacts ? Strange though ... since they seem to be
using a generic format now that would have been the first one I would have
addressed.
But that's me.

Greetz,
Nico.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:49 AM, mike90732  wrote:

> I'm using palm desktop 6.2.2. on windoze vista with my trio 755. I
> notice that the memos, to-do and calendar are in three separate mdb
> files. Low and behold, yes, they are Access databases and I can open
> them with Microsoft Access and browse the tables. (No passwords
> whatsoever.)
>
> Does anybody have any tips on using the mdb's in a regular database? I
> do a lot of access database work & wouldn't mind tying those tables
> into an existing database. Has anybody done this before and taken
> notes? Or must I go and poke around the database to figure out how to
> generate all the keys and so forth?
>
> Thanks!
>
> And, thanks for having my in your group.
>
> Mike
>
> --
> have fun and make money
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I'm using palm desktop 6.2.2. on windoze vista with my trio 755. I
notice that the memos, to-do and calendar are in three separate mdb
files. Low and behold, yes, they are Access databases and I can open
them with Microsoft Access and browse the tables. (No passwords
whatsoever.)

Does anybody have any tips on using the mdb's in a regular database? I
do a lot of access database work & wouldn't mind tying those tables
into an existing database. Has anybody done this before and taken
notes? Or must I go and poke around the database to figure out how to
generate all the keys and so forth?

Thanks!

And, thanks for having my in your group.

Mike

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have fun and make money

I purchased BrainForest and haven't used it for a while.  Last week I 
created a couple of new outlines on the Palm, but when I trie to load 
them with the Windows version of BrainForest it says:

  ShadP-ACA.PDB

  BrainForest cannot open this file because it is 
  not a BrainForest Tree.  Do you want to install 
  it on your handheld?

What is the trick to using the Windows version of BrainForest and being 
able to sync and use the outline on either platform?

Thanks for your help.

--- "mrudegeair"  wrote:
> What is the difference between Android and OpenMoko? Or are they the
same?

As I see it:
a) if you buy a phone, you're guaranteed a phone. :)
b) if you buy a phone running Android, you're guaranteed a phone
running a free and open operating system.
c) if you buy a Freerunner, you're guaranteed a (not free but) open
phone running a free and open operating system.

Openmoko is doing what they can in ensuring that even the hardware is
as open as possible; afaik that means only the GPS and GSM modules
represent "black boxes".

On 04/04/2008, mrudegeair  wrote:
>
> Sorry for the OT post, but it may be related to the future of Palm...
>

Only indirectly as I will explain below.

>
>  What is the difference between Android and OpenMoko? Or are they the same?
>

Android and OpenMoko are both Linux-based operating systems for smartphones.
Android comes from Google and uses Java for the application
environment.  OpenMoko was initiated by an Asian handset manufacturer
and uses Enlightenment for the application environment.

Palm has decided to create its own Linux-based operating system for
its next generation Palm OS.

-- 
Mamading Ceesay

"Live simply, that others may simply live."
--Gandhi

"We are here to help each other through this thing, whatever it is."
--Kurt Vonnegut, 1922 - 2007

Think before you print!

mrudegeair wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post, but it may be related to the future of Palm...
>
> What is the difference between Android and OpenMoko? Or are they the same?
>   
Similar intent (a relatively open Linux-based mobile OS/platform), but
different projects.  See Wikipedia entries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28mobile_device_platform%29 for
Google's Android and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openmoko for OpenMoki.

Bill
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Sorry for the OT post, but it may be related to the future of Palm...

What is the difference between Android and OpenMoko? Or are they the same?

Thanks.

Michael.

On 02/04/2008, rivera.ivan@gmail.com  wrote:
>
>  Let me share this news with you:
>
>  http://blog.treonauts.com/2008/04/an-apple-in-you.html?utm_source=tnemail&utm_campaign=email&utm_medium=daily
>
>  Any comments?
>

Not news to me.  Like yourself, I occasionally follow the
palm-oriented news sites so I was well aware of the new hires and the
direction that Palm is going in.

One key hire, your link doesn't mention is Paul Mercer who is not from
Apple, but is a noted expert on software architecture and is a key
player in the "Nova OS" the next generation Palm OS.

The problem that Palm will be facing is that by the time they unleash
the next gen hardware and OS, that between Apple's iPhone/iPod Touch
and devices running Google Android, they may be irrelevant in the
marketplace, especially for developers who will be focusing on iPhone
and/or Android software development.

Maintaining their carrier relationships is just one of the many things
Palm will have to execute on in order to make a real impact.  They
also have to come up with a viable business model for third party
software developers to rebuild the Palm ecosystem.  Apple are setting
an example here with the App Store and their flat 30% take.  Google
have yet to reveal what if anything they are doing on that front, but
I would imagine they have some plan.

-- 
Mamading Ceesay

"Live simply, that others may simply live."
--Gandhi

"We are here to help each other through this thing, whatever it is."
--Kurt Vonnegut, 1922 - 2007

Think before you print!

On 03/04/2008, Paul C  wrote:
>
>
>  Plaxo will sync tasks, notes, contacts, calendar, etc. but
>  unfortunately I don't know of a PalmOS client for Plaxo. I'm using it
>  indirectly through Outlook (i.e. Plaxo syncs all my Outlook apps
>  together, along with Google Calendar).
>

If Plaxo supports SyncML, the funambol palm os client should do the trick.

Other online services that support SyncML for tasks, calendar and
contacts are memotoo and scheduleworld.

-- 
Mamading Ceesay

"Live simply, that others may simply live."
--Gandhi

"We are here to help each other through this thing, whatever it is."
--Kurt Vonnegut, 1922 - 2007

Think before you print!

BTW, Goosync has announced task sync for their premium version

http://www.goosync.com/


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--- In GtD_Palm@yahoogroups.com, "Leonardo Garcia"  wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm asking if anyone know a way to mantain the tasks (not the
> calendar) syncronized with an online service like rtm, google, airset,
> etc., I've tested goosync and airset, both offers a calendar sync, but
> nothing to mantain the tasks. And the tasks is the core of my GTD
> implementation using the original built-in palm apps.
> 
> Every sugestion will be welcome.
> 
> Thanks
>

Plaxo will sync tasks, notes, contacts, calendar, etc. but
unfortunately I don't know of a PalmOS client for Plaxo. I'm using it
indirectly through Outlook (i.e. Plaxo syncs all my Outlook apps
together, along with Google Calendar).

Paul

--- In GtD_Palm@yahoogroups.com, "klaymendk"  wrote:
>
> --- "Catherine McFarland"  wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, ossowalt  wrote:
> > > I think one viable alternative could be this Nokia 810. [...]
> > > It has also the Access platform [...]
> > Can you explain what you mean by the "Access platform"? Is this
> > something that would let me use eReader and Mobipocket on a linux
> > device? Is it separate from the Nokia? Could it be installed on the
> > eeepc?
> 
> Palm has a colourful past: first there was only Palm Inc, it's been 
> a part of US Robotics and 3Com, and has at times split its
> hardware/software parts into Handspring, PalmOne, and Access, and 
> then re-merged in various configurations.
> 
> Access, as it is today, is the company that makes the "Palm OS". 
> More specifically, Palm devices run "Garnet" and there's a more 
> modern linux-based OS called the "Access Linux Platform" (ALP). 
> Incidentally, this is sort of similar to the evolution of Symbian, 
> both as a company and operating system.
> 
> Now ALP as an operating system runs three kinds of applications: 
> Linux apps (written specifically for ALP), Garnet apps (emulated, I 
> think), and Java apps. I was not able to find out what kind of 
> linux devices ALP itself can run on; there are some "reference 
> designs" out there but I can't say if you can run it on your Nokia, 
> Openmoko, Linux computer, or Eee.
> 
> Learn more at:
> http://www.access-company.com/home.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Linux_Platform
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Klaymen
>

That's a little misleading, Palm has publicly stated more than once it
will not be using ALP, and is working on its own OS. See:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2254698,00.asp

Paul

--- In GtD_Palm@yahoogroups.com, Nico  wrote:
This is my position too.  Whether it be Palm OS or Windoze I've found 
over the years that eventually the core purpose of the app has been 
achieved and updates become eye candy.  Sometimes the updates cause 
more problems than they're worth.

A concept that seems foreign to some computer / handheld users is "it 
works, that's good enough."

Steve

> What is the problem with using applications not being updated for 
so long
> when they still do what you want them to do ?
> Those apps need to get things done as easy as possible, they are 
not for
> being looked at ;-)
> 
> Greetz,
> Nico.
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- "Catherine McFarland"  wrote:
> Klayman,
> Thanks so much for your efforts. I'm not really an OS person and
> didn't realize there was so much complexity behind the linux
> platforms. But with your information I was able to get further
> info and I think it will still work.
I'm so glad to be of service! I may not have the answer you seek, but
if I can help get you started in the right direction, I've helped just
the same.


:o) Klaymen

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David A. Desrosiers 
  To: GtD_Palm@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 8:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [GtD_Palm] Controlling the PDA from the PC



  > Since I use supermemo almost everyday this programme would be very 
  > useful to create new flashcards. I have searched the archives in 
  > vain. Do you know which piece of software is this and where can I 
  > get it? and does it what it says in the box??

  I think what you seek is called KeyLink:

  http://www.mobilityware.com/KeyLink/KeyLinkProduct.htm



   

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Hello.

Let me share this news with you:

http://blog.treonauts.com/2008/04/an-apple-in-you.html?utm_source=tnemail&utm_campaign=email&utm_medium=daily

Any comments?


On 4/2/08, Catherine McFarland  wrote:
> Klayman,
>
> Thanks so much for your efforts. I'm not really an OS person and didn't
> realize there was so much complexity behind the linux platforms. From my
> reading on the Access site, it seemed to me that the Access Linus Platform
> ran on a specific version of Linux which was different that the version
> installed on the eeepc. But with your information I was able to get further
> info and I think it will still work.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Catherine
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:10 AM, klaymendk
> 
> wrote:
>
> > --- "Catherine McFarland"  wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, ossowalt  wrote:
> > > > I think one viable alternative could be this Nokia 810. [...]
> > > > It has also the Access platform [...]
> > > Can you explain what you mean by the "Access platform"? Is this
> > > something that would let me use eReader and Mobipocket on a linux
> > > device? Is it separate from the Nokia? Could it be installed on the
> > > eeepc?
> >
> > Palm has a colourful past: first there was only Palm Inc, it's been a
> > part of US Robotics and 3Com, and has at times split its
> > hardware/software parts into Handspring, PalmOne, and Access, and then
> > re-merged in various configurations.
> >
> > Access, as it is today, is the company that makes the "Palm OS". More
> > specifically, Palm devices run "Garnet" and there's a more modern
> > linux-based OS called the "Access Linux Platform" (ALP). Incidentally,
> > this is sort of similar to the evolution of Symbian, both as a company
> > and operating system.
> >
> > Now ALP as an operating system runs three kinds of applications: Linux
> > apps (written specifically for ALP), Garnet apps (emulated, I think),
> > and Java apps. I was not able to find out what kind of linux devices
> > ALP itself can run on; there are some "reference designs" out there
> > but I can't say if you can run it on your Nokia, Openmoko, Linux
> > computer, or Eee.
> >
> > Learn more at:
> > http://www.access-company.com/home.html
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Linux_Platform
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Hi all,
this is just another small progress report, so you don't mistake the
radio silence as a sign that I've wandered off in another direction. I
know that some of you (Mike) have been wondering what's up.

It's been four months since my last update, and the gtd.g-b.dk site
seems very stale. I apologize for that; I haven't been keeping the
site up to date with what I've been doing (which, to be fair, hasn't
been all that much either...). I shall post an update and a new sample
download "soon".

Okay, so progress:
* Categories are now rock solid and look exactly like the built in
Categories, only better ... there are less limits and the dialogs
support full-screen (DIA) size. 
* The context-centric Next Actions list is nearing something
functional, but it's still very limited.
* There is support for the 5-way nav wherever it makes sense (which is
in a lot of places). It's my intention to make the app as
"one-handedly useable" as possible. Also, mapping the app to a
hardbutton allows you to cycle through the main screens with repeated
hardbutton presses (similar to the built-in PIMs).
* Still no way to delete actions...
* Still no way to view/edit action details (dates, notes)...
* There's just a single and noncritical bug.
* The outline is still not working. Internally, the data is actually
linked as an outline, but I just have no way to show it.

I'm still very much "into" this project, and personally can't wait to
have it done, or at the very least in a useful state. But, for the
record, at the same time I see more and more signs of the Palm OS
nearing the end of its useful life. Also, I am truly intrigued by the
Openmoko project. We'll see what the future brings.

Cheers,
KlaymenDK

--- "Catherine McFarland"  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM, ossowalt  wrote:
> > I think one viable alternative could be this Nokia 810. [...]
> > It has also the Access platform [...]
> Can you explain what you mean by the "Access platform"? Is this
> something that would let me use eReader and Mobipocket on a linux
> device? Is it separate from the Nokia? Could it be installed on the
> eeepc?

Palm has a colourful past: first there was only Palm Inc, it's been a
part of US Robotics and 3Com, and has at times split its
hardware/software parts into Handspring, PalmOne, and Access, and then
re-merged in various configurations.

Access, as it is today, is the company that makes the "Palm OS". More
specifically, Palm devices run "Garnet" and there's a more modern
linux-based OS called the "Access Linux Platform" (ALP). Incidentally,
this is sort of similar to the evolution of Symbian, both as a company
and operating system.

Now ALP as an operating system runs three kinds of applications: Linux
apps (written specifically for ALP), Garnet apps (emulated, I think),
and Java apps. I was not able to find out what kind of linux devices
ALP itself can run on; there are some "reference designs" out there
but I can't say if you can run it on your Nokia, Openmoko, Linux
computer, or Eee.

Learn more at:
http://www.access-company.com/home.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access_Linux_Platform


Regards,
Klaymen

>  My advice is, don't look at the devices on the market -- examine your
>  needs and wants first. Trust me, knowing exactly what you want makes
>  it a lot easier to walk away from a 90% match!

That's kind of the way I feel.  I really love my Zire71. I live in an
area out of cell phone range and hate phones in any case. My Zire has
a cool built-in camera and that means I can always snap a picture.
When I drove home from work the other night and saw the herd of elk at
the side of the road, I was able to pull off and take some quick
pictures. And I use a lot of programs that haven't been updated in
awhile, like Accounts and Loans.  I suspect that I will look for
another Zire 71 when this one dies.

-- 
Teri Pittman
teri.pittman@gmail.com